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Challenge: The importance of hadhith and rebuttal to submitters of submission.org

The hadhith are very important and it is part of islam. Yes the Quran IS complete. Yet it is the same Quran which tells us to follow the hadhith of our prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).

There is not a single verse or line in the Quran which says that we should follow any other Hadith than "this Hadith" which refers to the Quran.

There is only one soure and one book God tells us to uphold, throughout the Quran, and that is - the Quran!

[18:27] You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.

[6:19] Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods beside GOD." Say, "I do not testify as you do; there is only one god, and I disown your idolatry."

[10:37] This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than GOD. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.

[18:54] We have cited in this Quran every kind of example, but the human being is the most argumentative creature.

[50:45] We are fully aware of everything they utter, while you have no power over them. Therefore, remind with this Quran, those who reverence My warnings.

Hadith are narrations of hearsay about the prophet gathered across eight generations. About 200 years after the prophets passing, someone named Bukhari started writing down stories based on hearsay of what people claimed the prophet may have said or done. It could be something like, "My great grandfathers father, said that his great grandfathers father had heard it from a reliable source that the prophet had said...."

Hadith has nothing to do with the prophet himself. It was never uttered by the prophet.

As there is so much nonsense gathered in these thousands of volumes of Hadith, they arranged a system whereby they categorized them as more reliable and less reliable Hadith. Depending on how reliable the alleged original witnesses were, the Hadith were classified accordingly. Imagine that!! Is that what you want to adhere to for your religious guidance - go ahead.

OR, you could choose the smart alternative, the guided alternative, the alternative God invites you to take, and that is to follow the one source God says is complete in truth and justice, fully detailed, explains everything clarifies every matter of wisdom. You could choose to obey God's command and verify all that is presented to you in the name of Islam in this scripture, whereupon you will find out that most of what is attributed to the prophet in Hadith, has nothing to do with the original message, but is in fact an abundance of nonsense and insults unjustly attributed to the honorable prophet Muhammad.

[31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith, and thus divert others from the path of GOD without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.

[39:23] GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways (to Heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for GOD's message. Such is GOD's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills (to be guided). As for those sent astray by GOD, nothing can guide them.

[39:29] GOD cites the example of a man who deals with disputing partners (Hadith), compared to a man who deals with only one consistent source (Quran). Are they the same? Praise be to GOD; most of them do not know.

[12:111] .... This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.

[45:6] These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?

Let me point down some facts from the Quran and otherwise which prove the necessity of following the hadhith of Muhammad (SAW).

Proof One

All messengers and prophets sent by ALLAH are infallible when it comes to spreading the message of islam. meaning that they dont make mistakes when speaking of religious matters.

since this article is aimed at submitters who reject hadhith therefore i would quote some translations from the "authorized" translation by RK( authorized by Rk, not ALLAH keep in mind please) Refer to other translations and you would see the great deviation.

Did you just change the subject? So this is no longer about proving the necessity of Hadith but proving, according to you, that Rashad made mistakes in his translation? We'll see which it is.

[5:67] O you messenger, deliver what is revealed to you from your Lord - until you do, you have not delivered His message - and GOD will protect you from the people. GOD does not guide the disbelieving people."

The above above verse translation by RK clearly indicates that the message of islam must be spread.

The above verse is proof that GOD would protect his messenger. But the irony is that GOD allowed his "messenger of the covenant" to be killed?? strikes you when u think of it deeply and simply.

You are either knowingly disregarding or completely ignorant of the Quranic message when drawing your conclusions here. The Quran teaches us that God's prophets and messengers, as well as those who stand up for truth and justice, have and can be been killed.

God makes His enemies believe that they kill or harm His servants when in fact they don't. Since their perception and belief is limited to what they can see with their own eyes, they actually believe that they have killed or harmed God's servants, when they haven't.

The last verses of soorath Al-haqqah soorath 69 tells us of that prophet Muhammad (SAW) didnt utter any lies but all that he said regarding islam were from ALLAH alone.

Agree. He would never lie about God's revelations and all he conveyed in God's name was certainly from God and no one else.

The last verses also tell us the severe punishment which would have befallen the prophet (SAW) had he lied. Now lets have a critical look at how the last few verses had been translated by RK.

[69:44] Had he uttered any other teachings.
[69:45] We would have punished him.
[69:46] We would have stopped the revelations to him.
[69:47] None of you could have helped him.
[69:48] This is a reminder for the righteous.
[69:49] We know; some of you are rejectors.
[69:50] It is but sorrow for the disbelievers.
[69:51] It is the absolute truth.
[69:52] Therefore, you shall glorify the name of your Lord, Most Great."

[69:45] in arabic is LA-AKHAZNAA-MINHU-BILYAMEEN The word yameen means the right hand side. However RK has written "[69:45] We would have punished him. " The deviation and misleadingness is clearly visible. I am not an arabic scholar but I have done my Arabic O'levels and understand to a very very basic level. But RK who knows Arabic so well has translated so wrong? For men of undertanding simple proofs like this is enough to not pay attention to these so called submitters. They are people with a subMISSION. I would explain to you there mission with logical proofs in an other article Insha ALLAH

Regardless of which translation you read, the message in these verses is that had prophet Muhammad said anything besides what God wanted him to, something really bad would have happened to him and he would no longer be in God's service. Right? All the translations states exactly the same in essence.

We know that prophet Muhammad would never utter any lies about God and His message, nor add anything to the message revealed. Prophet Muhammad believed in and followed the words in the Quran as God commanded him to. The following verses were recieved by and preached by prophet Muhammad:

[6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

[7:52] We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.

Thus, Hadith could never have been uttered by the prophet as it contains ideas and decrees which directly opposes the Quran. Hadith is nothing else but stories based on hearsay that were unjustly attributed to prophet Muhammad after his death, against his will. Suggesting that prophet Muhammad would have preached religious laws besides the Quran is blaspheming against God and His messenger.

"The last verses of soorath Al-haqqah soorath 69 tells us of that prophet Muhammad (SAW) didnt utter any lies but all that he said regarding islam were from ALLAH alone. The last verses also tell us the severe punishment which would have befallen the prophet (SAW) had he lied."

It seems here that the real purpose of this maneuver was to throw doubt about the message preached by Rashad Khalifa, when you say:"For men of undertanding simple proofs like this is enough to not pay attention to these so called submitters."

Men of understanding seek the essence of God's message (3:7). They view the details as part of a complete whole.

Anybody who has ever done any serious translating know that to convey a good representation of the original message/text, word by word translation is usually not possible. A good translator has a solid understanding of both languages involved and are able to transfer the message from one language to the other, maintaining the essence of the message without compromising the natural language, grammar and intended understanding in the process.

For the sake of comparing ability to convey the essence of the Quranic message, let's see how verse 22:15 has been translated by some of the most popular, respected translators.

Pickthall	Yusuf Ali	Shakir	Sher Ali	Khalifa
Whoso is wont to think (through envy) that Allah will not give him (Muhammad) victory in the world and the Hereafter (and is enraged at the thought of his victory), let him stretch a rope up to the roof (of his dwelling), and let him hang himself. Then let him see whether his strategy dispelleth that whereat he rageth!.	If any think that God will not help him (His Apostle) in this world and the Hereafter, let him stretch out a rope to the ceiling and cut (himself) off: then let him see whether his plan will remove that which enrages (him)!	Whoever thinks that Allah will not assist him in this life and the hereafter, let him stretch a rope to the ceiling, then let him cut (it) off, then let him see if his struggle will take away that at which he is enraged.	Whoso thinks that ALLAH will not help him in this world and the Hereafter, let him stretch a rope to heaven, and let him cut it off. Then let him see if his device can remove that which enrages him.	If anyone thinks that GOD cannot support him in this life and in the Hereafter, let him turn completely to (his creator in) heaven, and sever (his dependence on anyone else). He will then see that this plan eliminates anything that bothers him.

It is painfully clear that the first four translators have miserably failed to convey the essence of this verse in a natural way, true to the way the English languaged is used and interpreted. If one thinks the first four translators have done a good job, then one must admit to supporting the promotion of suicide and ludicrous, nonsensical suggestions involving ropes and ceilings.

As expected you've not presented one single verse containing instructions to follow Hadith of Muhammad. To prove your case, that it is wrong to follow the Quran alone, you've tried to discredit the translation of Rashad Khalifa in a verse completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

Proof Two

*Prophets are need to explain the religion. If God had willed HE would have sent only books. But HE sent men among us as Messengers and Prophets for them to explain there religion to us.

Yes, included in God's system is that He sends prophets and messengers. They recieve and then convey exactly what they were sent to convey, nothing more, nothing less. What has this got to do with narrations falsely attributed to prophet Muhammad?

Each messenger and prophet has preached to his people in their toungue, that they may understand the message (26:198-200, 14:4). They narrated, i.e. read, reminded, told the people around them about God's message, as it was revealed to them.

[6:130] O you jinns and humans, did you not receive messengers from among you, who narrated to you My revelations, and warned you about the meeting of this day?....

Throughout the Quran we see that God says, "When they ask, say...", so we know that the prophet were constantly approached with questions from his contemporaries. For answers he consulted the Quran.

IF we had actual proven recordings of prophet Jesus when he was preaching on the Mount or when Moses spoke to Pharao, or of Muhammad when he gave his final sermon to the people (of which there are three different versions of in Hadith by the way), this would be fantastic. But, we don't. We don't have anything preserved of their preachings to their contemporaries except hearsay across several generations.

We cannot even state that we know the scripture if we know it only through hearsay, how can we claim to know what the prophet may have said or done across eight generations of hearsay!!!

[2:78] Among them are gentiles who do not know the scripture, except through hearsay, then assume that they know it.

In the end, whether some of the hadith attributed to Muhammad is true or not doesn't matter. The reason for that is because God tells us in the Quran that everything that has any meaning or relevance to us is preserved in the Quran.

Whatever Muhammad or any of the other prophets and messengers said or did beyond what is stated in the Quran and the Bible has no religious significance to us, i.e. it is not part of their message to us, not important to us for our salvation.

[11:120] We narrate to you enough history of the messengers to strengthen your heart. The truth has come to you herein, as well as enlightenments and reminders for the believers.

[12:3] We narrate to you the most accurate history through the revelation of this Quran. Before this, you were totally unaware.

The messengers and prophets were supposed to be obeyed. Obeying doesn't mean following a book alone.

Let me quote some translations from RK as proof.

"[4:64] We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed in accordance with GOD's will. Had they, when they wronged their souls, come to you and prayed to GOD for forgiveness, and the messenger prayed for their forgiveness, they would have found GOD Redeemer, Most Merciful."

In the above verse as you can see from RK's translation GOD sent his messengers to be obeyed. And God does NOT say obey the book alone or follow the revealed verses alone. rather it is the word obey. Let me put down the oxford meaning for obey; "obey v. 1 a carry out the command of. b carry out (a command). 2 do what one is told to do. 3 be actuated by (a force or impulse). [Latin obedio from audio hear]" so the meaning is clearly visible. Obey means do what you are told to do. Therefore we must obey all the things which came from prophet Muhammad (SAW)

Now Let me put down the verses translation where the arabic terms FATHAQULLAH_WA_ATHIEOON

[26:108] "You shall reverence GOD and obey me
[26:110] "You shall reverence GOD and obey me."
[26:126] "You shall reverence GOD, and obey me"

The above verses are regared to different Messenger of ALLAH. Please refer to Soorath Ash-Shuara

There is no question that we are obligated to obey whatever commands are issued by God's messengers and prophets, because whatever they preached in God's name was not from them but from God. The point that supporters of Hadith consistently fail to understand is that Hadith was never uttered by Prophet Muhammad, it was attributed to him during the centuries that followed after his passing.

Proof for that you find in Hadith itself, as it contains so much nonsense and is contradicting the Quranic message in all it's decrees. If it was indeed a truthful collection of narrations (hadiths), every single on of them would have been possible to verify in the Quran.

All this nonsense is part of what is considered 'reliable' Hadith. Attributing it to prophet Muhammad is insulting God and His prophet. Countless of Hadiths directly contradicts the Quranic teachings. We are not talking about different representations of the same message (in essence) here, but completely contradictory messages. Anything worth reading can be verified in the Quran. Considering that criteria, why read it in the first place?

Recieving and spreading the Quran is what made Muhammad a prophet. That was his message and mission, so if we want to follow prophet Muhammad we should follow the Quran, nothing else. Not because we think so but the Quran says so.

God says that His final scripture to us is fully detailed (6:114-115, 18:27, and many more). People who look for more details, are looking for guidance beyond what God provided. This is idol worship, looking for and wanting another source of guidance besides God.

God tells us in the Quran that He made the religion easy to learn (54:17, 22) and easy to practice (5:6, 20:2), Hadith suggests the opposite. Many upholders of Hadith even claim that the Quran is not possible to understand without Hadith!! Thus they are suggesting that God made the Quran difficult to learn, not easy as He Himself claims!! How is that for following your personal opinions?

Hadith contains instructions for how people should laugh, walk, eat, sleep, how to use the bathroom and what to do in there, how to drink water. It also contains details about the prophets sex life, many quite gross and shocking. It is absolutely clear that all such details have nothing to do with our religion or salvation.

It is no wonder that people who have a stake in maintaining these kinds of nonsense practices of this severely distorted version of Islam must FORCE and threaten people to adhere to their rules and regulations in the name of Islam. Nobody in their right mind would choose to freely follow these ridiculous and ignorant directives.

Thus there are Hadiths that says that a man that is caught not praying for the fourth time should be killed!! This despite the fact that God says in the Quran that "There shall be no compulsion in religion" (2:256)

Supporting these false laws unjustly attributed to God's perfect religion is equivalent to being an enemy of God, His Prophet Muhammad and Islam. If we had recordings of prophet Muhammad preaching during his lifetime, we would have seen him preach the words in the Quran, the whole Quran and nothing but the Quran, as God commanded him to.

[17:9] This Quran guides to the best path, and brings good news to the believers who lead a righteous life, that they have deserved a great recompense.

So for 'proof' 2 to support Hadith, you stated a verse from the Quran stating that we should obey God and His messenger. That we should obey God and His messenger is absolutely correct, and is something that the author if this article should start doing, if he really believes that the Quran was the message brought by prophet Muhammad.

Proof Three

The companians of the Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) followed the messenger very willingly and GOD has not Sent verses which say dont follow the Messenger . But GOD aproves of their actions of following the prophet.

"[48:29] Muhammad - the messenger of GOD - and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, as they seek GOD's blessings and approval. Their marks are on their faces, because of prostrating. This is the same example as in the Torah. Their example in the Gospel is like plants that grow taller and stronger, and please the farmers. He thus enrages the disbelievers. GOD promises those among them who believe, and lead a righteous life, forgiveness and a great recompense."

"The above translation from RK shows that the companions of the prophet (S.A.W) were guided people and that they followed the prophet (S.A.W) and that GOD approved of there actions.

Absolutely correct. Guided people follow those sent by God, because they convey what was sent to them by God. Only for that reason. This has always been the case, with all the prophets and all the messengers sent. Contemporaries of prophet Muhammad, just like the contemporaries of all the other prophets and messengers followed him/them. Not because of him/them as individuals, but because of the words they preached in God's name. Muhammad preached the Quran for his followers as it was revealed to him, over a period of 23 years. So, now we have the Quran. Let's follow it!

The same verse also indicates that the true beleivers with good Imaan are harsh and stern against the disbelievers. It doesn't say some disbelievers nor does it say love the disbelievers. But RK writes that only SOME disbelievers should be not taken as friends in his various articles. It is clear that he is not beleiving in ALLAH and His book because he has done his best to alter the meanings of the verses in the Quran."

These kinds of misleading statements are unfortunate and is what happens when we only uphold or emphasize parts of the message (2:85, 15:91).

When we read the rest of the Quran, it becomes clear that God would not be pleased with us if we were to walk around being harsh and stern against anyone simply for the reason that they do not share our belief. This way we would be setting a terribly bad and unjust example.

The verses preceeding 48:29 gives us a clear view of the circumstances in which a harsh approach from the believers would be appropriate:

[48:25] It is they who disbelieved and barred you from the Sacred Masjid, and even prevented your offerings from reaching their destination. There were believing men and women (within the enemy camp) whom you did not know, and you were about to hurt them, unknowingly. GOD thus admits into His mercy whomever He wills. If they persist, He will requite those among them who disbelieve with a painful retribution.

The rules regulating our relations with people who do not share our belief is clearly outlines in the Quran in Sura 60:

[60:8] GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable.

[60:9] GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors.

As Muslims we should be able to share the same space, respectfully and peacefully with all people as long as they peacefully allow us the same rights to worship as we grant them. As God says, "There shall be no compulsion in religion (2:256)."

God tells us to treat others amicably and nicely, in the best possible manner, and not behave haughtily, as if we are better than other people.

[31:18] You shall not treat the people with arrogance, nor shall you roam the earth proudly. GOD does not like the arrogant showoffs.

[31:19] Walk humbly and lower your voice - the ugliest voice is the donkey's voice.

[41:34] Not equal is the good response and the bad response. You shall resort to the nicest possible response. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend.

[16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones.

[4:90] ... Therefore, if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them..

So, as you've now seen, perhaps for the first time, there are verses in the Quran with instructions to the believers on how to deal with those who actively oppose them, and there are other verses with instructions on how to deal with those who don't believe as they do but leave them alone.

To bring the absurdity of what you seem to suggest into a stronger light, consider this example. There are scenarios in which a law enforcement officer is entitled to shoot people in their knee caps. Obviously there are tons of other rules regulating the conduct of an officer in the field that does not involve using their guns on people. Taking only one paragraph out of the manual and applying it to all situations indiscriminately we could call 'not wise" at best, but more appropriately we would call it absolutely insane and horrendous.

Wait, did I sense a comment on your part starting with, "But, everybody understands that this is only when..." Well, I agree, it is only under special circumstances, which of course are outlined carefully in the rest of the law enforcement manual. And THAT is what wise and balanced minds do. They apply all the laws to put things in their right perspective. For us, it means reading and applying all the Quranic verses to bring different situations into their right perspective.

Your 'proof' number 3 was based on, "But RK writes that only SOME disbelievers should be not taken as friends in his various articles. It is clear that he is not beleiving in ALLAH and His book because he has done his best to alter the meanings of the verses in the Quran."

As you have clearly seen now, your argument has no basis in the Quran, and Rashad Khalifa conveyed exactly what the Quran preaches. You have been proven wrong by the Quran and Rashad has been proven right. Right?

Proof Four

In this section i shall put down different verses which prove the need of the hadhith.

"[7:158] Say, "O people, I am GOD's messenger to all of you. To Him belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no god except He. He controls life and death." Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messenger, the gentile prophet, who believes in GOD and His words. Follow him, that you may be guided."

In the above verse the arabic says GUL-YAA-AYYUHANNAS in the beginning of the verse which clearly means SAY: O MANKIND meaning say to all of mankind or all humans but RK writes people to deviate people from the gravity of the verse.

If one uses "Oh men", or "Oh people", or "Oh mankind" it does not change the meaning of the verse one bit. What is relevant to one man is relevant for all. That is the nature of God's revelations. They don't make distinctions among people. The same applies for all.

As demonstrated below other translators have chosen the word "people" or "men" as well. Are they seeking to deviate people from the gravity of the verse as well?

Yusuf Ali	Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Apostle of God, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in God and His Apostle, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in God and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided."
Shakir	Say: O people! surely I am the Apostle of Allah to you all, of Him Whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth there is no god but He; He brings to life and causes to die therefore believe in Allah and His apostle, the Ummi Prophet who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him so that you may walk in the right way.
Palmer	Say, 'O ye folk! verily, I am the Apostle of God unto you all' -, of Him whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, there is no god but He! He quickens and He kills! believe then in God and His Apostle, the illiterate prophet,- who believes in God and in His words - then follow him that haply ye may be guided.
Rodwell	SAY to them: O men! Verily I am God's apostle to you all; Whose is the kingdom of the Heavens and of the Earth! Therefore believe on God but He! He maketh alive and killeth! Therefore believe on God, and his Apostle - the unlettered Prophet - who believeth in God and his word. And follow him that ye may be guided aright.
Sale	Say, o men, verily I am the messenger of God unto you all: Unto him [belongeth] the kingdom of heaven and earth; there is not God but he; he giveth life, and he causeth to die. Believe therefore in God and his apostle, the illiterate prophet, who believeth in God and his word; and follow him, that ye may be [rightly] directed.

[16:44] We provided them with the proofs and the scriptures. And we sent down to you this message, to proclaim for the people everything that is sent down to them, perhaps they will reflect."

The above verse shows that Muhammad (S.A.W) was the explainer of the Quran. The arabic text of the verse is BIL-BAYYINAATHI-WAZZUBURI-WA-ANZALNAA- ILAIKAZZIKRA-LI- THUBAYYANA-LINNAASI-MAANUZZALA-ILAIHIM-VA-LA- ALLAHUM-YATHAFAKKAROON. The word LITHUBAYYANA means explain not proclaim. The intention of RK to change the terms is clearly to make people go astray.

Muhammad was sent to speak, preach, enlighten, explain, proclaim, remind, and perform any other act of conveying God's message available to him to the people around him. This goes with the job of being a prophet and messenger of God.

Whatever he explained or made clear to the people around him 1400 years ago was in consistency with the Quran. Just as any knowledgeable person refers people to different verses and shares his or her understanding of the same with people around them, Muhammad did the same thing. If we did have proven accounts of his preaching, we would find that everything he said could be verified in the Quran. But we don't.

The narrations (Hadith) attributed to him, we KNOW were never uttered by this honorable prophet. How do we know? We know because they contradict the Quran. End of story.

Anyone who claims that Muhammad's alleged writings are needed to explain the Quran is making the Quran Muhammad's personal tutorial!!

God CLEARLY sais in the Quran that He is the Teacher of the Quran (55:1), that Muhammad was forbidden from explaining the Quran (75:19) and that He made the Quran easy to learn for ANYONE who wishes to learn (54:17).

Verse No	Khalifa	Pickthall	Sher Ali	Yusuf Ali
55:2	Teacher of the Quran.	Hath made known the Qur'an.	HE taught the Qur'an.	It is He Who has taught the Qur'an.

Verse No	Khalifa	Pickthall	Shakir	Yusuf Ali
75:18	Once we recite it, you shall follow such a Quran.	And when We read it, follow thou the reading;	Therefore when We have recited it, follow its recitation.	But when We have promulgated it, follow thou its recital (as promulgated):
75:19	Then it is we who will explain it.	Then lo! upon Us (resteth) the explanation thereof.	Again on Us (devolves) the explaining of it.	Nay more, it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear):

Verse No	Khalifa	Shakir	Sher Ali	Yusuf Ali
54:17	We made the Quran easy to learn. Does any of you wish to learn?	And certainly We have made the Quran easy for remembrance, but is there anyone who will mind?	And indeed, WE have made the Qur'an easy to remember. Is there anyone who would take heed ?	And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

How do you reconcile that with your view that only through Muhammad's alleged explanations can we understand the Quran?!! Explanations that directly contradicts the clear Quranic commandments?!!

The exact word used in 16:44, li-tubayyina (explain/proclaim/make clear) is used twice in the whole Quran. In this verse and in 16:64.

Verse No	Khalifa	Pickthall	Sher Ali	Yusuf Ali
16:64	We have revealed this scripture to you, to point out for them what they dispute, and to provide guidance and mercy for people who believe.	And We have revealed the Scripture unto thee only that thou mayst explain unto them that wherein they differ, and (as) a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe.	And WE have not sent down to thee the Book except that thou mayest explain to them that concerning which they have created differences and as a guidance, and a mercy for a people who believe.	And We sent down the Book to thee for the express purpose, that thou shouldst make clear to them those things in which they differ, and that it should be a guide and a mercy to those who believe.

This is a very powerful verse as it explains an important principle in the Quran which brings clarity to HOW the Quran is a "fully detailed scripture" (6:114) and still does not contain word for word instructions on how to do the Salat for example.

This verse explains that God only put in the Quran the parts of our religion that were disputed. The foundations of our Salat were never disputed.

"[3:31] Proclaim: "If you love GOD, you should follow me." GOD will then love you, and forgive your sins. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful"

According to RK loving the prophet (S.A.W) is to follow Quran alone. If so what is the need of a prophet? is there slighty any need? ALLAH is not unaware and neither is he at anytime running out of words. ALLAH clearly says in his book that following his messenger Muhammad (S.A.W) is loving ALLAH. ALLAH doesn't say loving ALLAH is following the Quran alone. Neither does HE say loving ALLAH is loving the Quran alone in any verse.

As pointed out to us in the Quran, it is God's system that He does not come down Himself and speak to us directly, but sends messengers and prophets to us to convey His revelations to us through whomever He chooses. This system is unchangeable (48:23).

[42:51] No human being can communicate with GOD except through inspiration, or from behind a barrier, or by sending a messenger through whom He reveals what He wills. He is the Most High, Most Wise.

Part of believing in God, as pointed out by verse 2:177, is to believe in His system. This, as we now see, is also part of the test. Some people fail this test by attributing power to those entities and creatures God uses for certain jobs, as if they had anything to do with the revelation, which the Quran informs us they don't.

Prophets and messengers are like postmen, simply delivering a message from the King of kings. They are not allowed to tamper with, add to or remove anything from the message. They are sent to proclaim and deliver and speak to the people ABOUT God's message in any and all ways. Nothing more, nothing less. This is why they ALL say;

[46:23] He said, "The knowledge about this is with GOD; I only deliver to you what I was sent to deliver. However, I see that you people are ignorant."

This universe we live in cannot stand the physical presence of God (7:143). That is why God uses other entities to reveal and proclaim His messages.

Thus, when God says, in the Quran, that His scripture is fully detailed, and that we should not uphold or follow any other source besides it, then we should say, "We hear and we obey." The following words were revealed through prophet Muhammad. This is what he preached to his contemporaries:

[6:115] The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

[18:27] You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it.

[16:89] The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters.

[49:2] O you who believe, do not raise your voices above the voice of the prophet, nor shall you shout at him as you shout at each other, lest your works become nullified while you do not perceive.

*49:2 Whenever the word ``prophet'' (Nabi) is used in reference to Muhammad, it invariably refers to him during his life, not after his death. Obviously, we cannot possibly raise our voices above Muhammad's voice, now that he is dead. See also 33:56."

The above translations from RK shows that we shouldn't raise our voices over that of the prophet (S.A.W) let alone our opinions. GOD revealed the Quran as the last book therefore all the sayings in it should be obeyed till time ends.

In the above verses GOD doesn't say "do not raise your voices over the prophet TILL HE DIES. And neither does he say " raise your voices over the prophet after he dies". The footnote which you can see is a hadith from MR. RK. the foot note he has given is NOT in the Quran any where. RK speaks of the wrongness of using ANY hadhith other than that of the Quran. but he himself is using his own hadhith to make people go astray. In an other article I shall give you a list of his OWN hadhith which are NOT in the Quran. Inshaa ALLAH.

IF Hadith were indeed uttered by the prophet, it would all be confirmed and supported by the Quran. But it is not. Quite the opposite. So you need to revise your belief that Hadith and Muhammad is connected, because it is not. Hadith are Lies ATTRIBUTED to Muhammad, against his will.

There is nothing wrong with sharing our insights from the Quran, either verbally or writing. Had Muhammad done this he would never have claimed it to be 'sources' to be followed besides the Quran, nor would he have written anything that is not directly derived from the Quran. Right?!

God WILL hold each and every one of us repsonsible for what we accept in His name. This is why He commands us to verify everything with our own eyes, hearing and brains (17:36). The intelligent question a believer will ask him or herself is, "Verify against what?"

Reading the Quran we quickly get the answer. It is about verifying what we accept religiously against the Quran.The Quran is our lie detector. It is a scripture that is complete in truth and justice, and in which every matter of wisdom is clarified (6:114-115, 44:4).

EVERY SINGLE THING prophet Muhammad conveyed, explained, proclaimed, preached, talked about is in the scripture he was commissioned to convey - the Quran.

The sources called Hadith which have falsely been attributed to the prophet against his will, were never uttered by the prophet. It is a compilation of hearsay that someone started to write down over 200 years after his death. The proof of that is that most of its contents contradicts the Quran!!!

Most followers of Hadith will admit that some Hadiths are less reliable than others. When asked how to know if a Hadith is authentic or not they will say (something to the effect), 'We check in the Quran.'

[23:73] Most assuredly, you are inviting them to a straight path."

The above translation by RK proves that Muhammad (S.A.W) invited people to SIRAATHUL-MUSTHAGEEM which is told of in Soorathul Faathihaa.

Absolutely. Muhammad most definately invited people to the straight path. A path that enemies of God and His messenger have been trying to make crooked ever since. Perhaps that is why we see God reporting Muhammad saying about his people on the day of Judgement:

So, the people the prophet calls "my people" fall under the category of having deserted the Quran. Yet, it is the stories of these people, their reports of hearsay filtered down through eight generations you want to promote as a religious source besides the perfect and fully detailed scripture Muhammad delivered?!!

So, your 'proof' number 4 is based on stating that Muhammad brought the truth and should be obeyed, and that we should not place our opinion above that of God and His messengers. These commands are absolutely true. Don't do the mistake of applying these principles to lies attributed to prophet Muhammad after his death.

Proof Five

Can you actually hear what you are saying?! Most authentic hadith, most preserved, because mostly narrated?!! Since when was the number of repetitions any criteria for truth? With that logic you would certainly agree that Jesus is the son of God, since that 'hadith' is probably even more narrated than the one you present here, and older as well!

Understand this - God does NOT authorize any other source for religious guidance besides the Quran. This does not mean that we can ONLY read the Quran. Of course not. We read all kinds of enlightening material, including God's previous scriptures to the world. It means that EVERYTHING we accept in God's name as being religiously correct and relevant is supported and confirmed in the Quran.

Hadith falsely attributed to prophet Muhammad contains tons of nonsense that directly contradicts the Quran: Click here to read more about that.

With this statement you are admitting that there are less authentic hadiths. The question that automatically follows is; How do you determine which is which? Do you listen to other people? Do you compare 1200-1400 old names of characters you've never known or met to assess if they were good and truthful believers or not? Do you judge their proximity to the prophet, like Judas to Jesus? Or, do you verify against the Quran?

The 'authenticity level' determined by the supporters of Hadith has nothing to do with the Quran. It has to do with their assessments of the witnesses. Imagine that. They are assessing the truthfulness of people they've never known, when God says that the prophets themselves do not even know their own destiny, much less the truthfulness of other people!! In fact, the prophets worry about their own necks.

[21:27-28] They never speak on their own, and they strictly follow His commands. He knows their future and their past. They do not intercede, except for those already accepted by Him, and they are worried about their own necks.

Verses which clearly tells us that not even God's prophets and messengers knows the destiny or level of righteousness of people around him.

[26:111-112] They said, "How can we believe with you, when the worst among us have
followed you? He said, "How do I know what they did? Their judgment rests only with my Lord, if you could perceive.

[11:31] "I do not claim that I possess the treasures of GOD, nor do I know the future, nor do I claim to be an angel. Nor do I say to those despised by your eyes that GOD will not bestow any blessings upon them. GOD knows best what is in their innermost thoughts. (If I did this,) I would be a transgressor."

[2:204] Among the people, one may impress you with his utterances concerning this life, and may even call upon GOD to witness his innermost thoughts, while he is a most ardent opponent.

[3:119] Here you are loving them, while they do not love you, and you believe in all the scripture. When they meet you they say, "We believe," but as soon as they leave, they bite their fingers out of rage towards you. Say, "Die in your rage." GOD is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.

We are not even allowed to claim knowledge of the scripture if through hearsay. What makes someone think that it would be acceptable by God to claim knowledge of what Muhammad allegedly said or did across eight generations of hearsay of strangers?!!

[2:78] Among them are gentiles who do not know the scripture, except through hearsay, then assume that they know it.

God did not reveal the Quran for people after the time of of rashadh khalifa. but it was revealed for all of mankind and jinn since the time prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).

Absolutely Agree. Rashad Khalifa was sent to confirm what was given to all the previous prophets and messengers, including prophet Muhammad, as outlined in verses 3:81 and 33:7.

GOD doesn't need to "code" instructions or facts in his book. IN NO VERSE IN THE QURAN DOES ALLAH TELL PEOPLE TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF INTIALS OR VERSES OR WORDS OR SOORATHS.

Certainly God doesn't need anything. It was God's CHOICE to protect and preserve the Quran from any tampering through a mathematical code based on the number 19. He did this through a "Hidden Secret" (Sura 74) which was to be revealed at a certain time in the history of mankind.

This secret was revealed exactly 1406 (19x74) years after the revelation of the Quran, in 1974. Only after the revelation of the mathematical miracle do the world know the meaning of the 'mysterious' initials prefixing 29 of the Quranic chapters. Are you disregarding this?

If you apply the same scrutiny to your Quranic studies as demonstrated when objecting to using the word "people" instead of "mankind" (7:158 above), then what is your reaction to this overwhelming Quranic fact?

Apparently, according to your statement here, THIS is insignificant, while the choice to translate a word "people" or "mankind" or "men" is so important that you you consider it proof that all the verifiable facts someone has presented from the Quran are lies?!

It would also be interesting to see your answer to God's law stated in 56:79 that no one who is not a sincere believer will have access to the Quran, much less it's secret?!

What people may not be aware of is that when the mathematical miracle of the Quran first became known to the world, as it was published in "Scientific American" for example, and as numerous publications about it was spread throughout the Muslim world, the reception of these awesome news were extremely positive.

Once the consequences of this miracle became known, i.e. that it was part of God's renewed call to all of us to return to following His words alone, which today is the Quran alone, most people made a U-turn and rejected the whole thing, the entire miracle. The only thing that had changed between the time of them accepting and rejecting it, was the message preached supported by this miracle. Imagine that!? Muslims rejecting a miracle imbedded in the Quran just because they cannot stand the message it supports? Did I say Muslims?

Most traditional Muslims now know that the 'cat is already out of the bag' and there is little to nothing they can do to hide this miracle anymore. Thus, they've chosen a different approach, which is to accept that there IS a mathematical composition based on the number 19, discovered by Rashad Khalifa, but claim that it is not significant.

Are you rejecting his messengership because the Quran does not spell out his name, as in "follow Rashad Khalifa"?

Has any of God's prophets and messengers been named beforehand? The answer to that question is of course - No.

Rashad Khalifa's name is actually spelled out in the Quran. One example would be the fact that the root word for his first name, "Rashada" occurs in the Quran 19 times. Are you disregarding this?

Is it a coicidence that the name of the person who discovered the miracle based on the number 19 is coded into the Quran, first and last name?

Is it a coincidence that the person who discovered the mathematical miracle of the Quran was born on 19th of November, the 323'rd day of the year, which is 19x17, the only date 19 which is also a day divisible by 19 in its consecutive order of days?

Is it a coincidence that the miracle of 19 was discovered in 1974, exactly 19x74 years, i.e. 1406 years after the revelation of the Quran?

Is it a coincidence that the number 19 is mentioned in Sura 74, entitled The Hidden Secret?!

Did Rashad Khalifa manipulate all these numbers including his own birth and time length between the revelation of the text of the Quran and the revelation of the miracle authenticating each letter in that text?

Certainly we are not to follow Rashad Khalifa or any other human being. We are to follow God's revelations revealed through them, nothing else. Regardless of who speaks God's words or when, we are commanded to listen and take heed.

What did Rashad Khalifa say that is so upsetting? He preached the worship of God alone and stated, based on God's words in the Quran, that we shall follow the Quran alone. Everything he said is based on the Quran.

You've already shown that you have a problem with the concept of Quran being complete as God assures us. What other Quranic principles preached by Rashad Khalifa do you have a problem with?

Is it the reminder of God's decree to only commmorate His name in our worship practices, which excludes the name of Muhammad or anyone else from our Shahaadah, Salat and so forth? (39:45, 2:136, 2:285, 3:84, 4:150, 72:18, 3:18).

IN NO VERSE DOES IT SAY THAT PEOPLE WHO DIE UNDER THE AGE OF 40 WOULD GO TO HEAVEN.

Both the Bible and the Quran speaks only of one age in terms of reaching maturity, and that is the age of 40 (Quran 46:15).

The Quran explains that EVERYONE in Hell will fall under the category of people who were given a LIFE-LONG chance with continuous reminders (35:37). How long is that and when can we be considered old enough to take heed when reminded? At age 5? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35?

If it is not 40, as the scripture points out, then at what age do you suggest, based on the scripture, that the human being are to be held responsible for their belief and actions?

It is commonly recnogized among physicians and psychologist, whether they believe in God or not, that the age of forty signifies changes in a person, both physical and mental.

IN NO VERSE DOES GOD SAY THAT THE RELIGOUS ACTIVITIES' INSTRUCTIONS ARE CODED IN THE GEMATRICAL VALUES OF LETTERS. The above sentenses are an open challenge to all the submitters to show any verse which say the things i have mentioned.

It is kind of astounding to see someone so adamantly insist that everything we are to follow must be spelled out verbatum in the Quran to be true, while completely ignoring this same suggested principle when considering Hadith?!

So far you have not produced one single verse that where God says that we should follow the 'Hadith of Muhammad', quite the opposite actually, yet you insist that we should.

Thank God the mathematical composition of the Quran is not subject to people's opinions!! To read more about the mathematical composition of our Salat for example, please click here.

The religious duties are part of God's revelations to us, all given to prophet Abraham. It was God's will that these also bear His to stamp of authenticity, as His final scripture to the world.

[16:123] Then we inspired you (Muhammad) to follow the religion of Abraham, the monotheist; he never was an idol worshiper.

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THE QURAN TELLS US THAT WE MUST MAKE HAJJ BUT WHERE ARE THE DETAILS?? AND PLEASE DONT SHOW ME GEMATRICAL VALUES. SHOW ME VERSES FROM THE QURAN BECAUSE SUBMITTERS FOLLOW QURAN ALONE AND NOT ARITHMETIC CALCULATIONS. THIS OPEN CHALLENGE IS FOR ALL SUBMITTERS. IF YOU ARE PEOPLE TRUE OF YOUR WORD SHOW EVIDENCE.

Classical challenge. 'IF the Quran is complete, perfect and fully detailed, then where....' This is actually not a challenge against the Submitters. This is a direct challenge of God's assurances to us that the Quran is fully detailed and that only the disputed parts are made clear in the Quran. To read about Hajj in the Quran: http://www.submission.info/practices/hajj/hajjverses.html

The parts of Hajj that were corrupted with time (16:64) are are discussed in the Quran, including the altering of the Sacred Months. We've adressed this in another article already.

"Once in a lifetime, Hajj and `Umrah are decreed for those who can afford it. Pilgrimage commemorates Abraham's exemplary submission to God (Appendix 9), and must be observed during the four Sacred Months -Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, & Rabi` I (12th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd months) (2:197; 9:2, 36). `Umrah can be observed any time. Like all other duties in Islam, Hajj has been distorted. Most Muslims observe Hajj only during a few days in Zul-Hijjah, and they consider Rajab, Zul-Qi'dah, Zul-Hijjah, and Muharram (7th, 11th, 12th, 1st months) to be the Sacred Months. This is a distortion that is strongly condemned (9:37). "

The above paragraph under the heading WHAT RK SAYS ........ is taken from his appendix 15 in which according to him lies the details of hajj and umrah. please read with attention. look carefully at the following translation by MR RK followed by a foot note.

"[2:197] Hajj shall be observed in the specified months*. Whoever sets out to observe Hajj shall refrain from sexual intercourse, misconduct, *2:197 Hajj can be observed any time during the Sacred Months: Zul Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I. Local governments restrict Hajj to a few days for their own convenience. See 9:37."

In the above translated verse RK tries to answer the specific months by giving reference to 9:37. This is going to be interesting please pay attention. Let us begin the merry-go-round and see his translations for 9:37 followed by RK's footnote

"[9:37] Altering the Sacred Months is a sign of excessive disbelief; it augments the straying of those who have disbelieved. They alternate the Sacred Months and the regular months, while preserving the number of months consecrated by GOD. They thus violate what GOD has consecrated. Their evil works are adorned in their eyes. GOD does not guide the disbelieving people

*9:37 The Sacred Months according to the corrupted Muslim World are Rajab, Zul-Qe`dah, Zul-Hijjah, and Muharram (7th, 11th, 12th and 1st months of the Islamic Calendar). A careful study of the Quran, however, reveals that they should be Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, and Rabi I (12th, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd months). See Appendix 15."

Note that not even in verse 2:197 and in verse 9:37 the sacred months ARE NOT mentioned. the sacred months according to RK are mentioned in his OWN HADITH footnote.well lets get going to Appendix 15 and see wether we can find the proof of what the sacred months are.

"Once in a lifetime, Hajj and `Umrah are decreed for those who can afford it. Pilgrimage commemorates Abraham's exemplary submission to God (Appendix 9), and must be observed during the four Sacred Months -Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, & Rabi` I (12th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd months) (2:197; 9:2, 36). `Umrah can be observed any time. Like all other duties in Islam, Hajj has been distorted. Most Muslims observe Hajj only during a few days in Zul-Hijjah, and they consider Rajab, Zul-Qi'dah, Zul-Hijjah, and Muharram (7th, 11th, 12th, 1st months) to be the Sacred Months. This is a distortion that is strongly condemned (9:37)."

The above paragraph from Appendix 15 by RK does NOT PROVE that the sacred months are the months which he has mentioned. but he has given further refence suggestions to 2:197, 9:2,36 and 9:37. u would only find your self roaming around with no proof of what the sacred months for observing the hajj or umrah is. I rest my case here. it is as clear as day and night that it is the hadhith which explain the Quran and Islam. Once again i would say YES the Quran is complete and it is is the same Quran which tells us to follow the prophet (S.A.W)'s hadhith along with the Quran. They are two things which are meant for the same purpose.

The Quran tells us that the four sacred months are continuous; not interrupted months as the tradition now claims. It is clear from the verses below that God is referring to a four month respite for the disbelievers during the Sacred Months, starting with the "great day of pilgrimage", the first day of the first month.

[9:1-4] An ultimatum is herein issued from GOD and His messenger to the idol worshipers who enter into a treaty with you. Therefore, roam the earth freely for four months, and know that you cannot escape from GOD, and that GOD humiliates the disbelievers. A proclamation is herein issued from GOD and His messenger to all the people on the great day of pilgrimage, that GOD has disowned the idol worshipers, and so did His messenger. Thus, if you repent, it would be better for you. But if you turn away, then know that you can never escape from GOD. Promise those who disbelieve a painful retribution. If the idol worshipers sign a peace treaty with you, and do not violate it, nor band together with others against you, you shall fulfill your treaty with them until the expiration date. GOD loves the righteous.

[9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

The four sacred months are Zul-Hijjah, Muharram, Safar, & Rabi` I (12th, 1st, 2nd, 3rd months). There is no dispute with Zul-Hijjah and Muharram being part of the four sacred months. The dispute is about the 3rd and 4th month. Is it not then significant that Rabi` which is derived from the root word Araba, which means 4, is the last of the four sacred months!

The mathematical miracle links the four "continuous" sacred months with Hajj, to verse of 2:197

700,61,308,3,5 + 40,8,200,40 + 90,80,200 + 200,2,10,70,1,6,30 + 2 + 197 = 207266732904 =19x10908775416.