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Challenge: THE MISSION OF SUBMISSION.ORG
Dear brothers and sisters,
The Holy Quran is complete and it is NOT tampered with other than the RK cult. Let me now try to make you understand what there mission is all about. Why they do what they do and hows it is done.
It is really surprising to see that the RK cult continously claims that the Quran is Tampered with and Yet is it in perfect preservation. They say that the Quran is preserved in a master tablet and that the Quran here on earth is not as preserved as the master tablet.(( please take note that during most of my articles as well as this one i would be using translations from Rashadh Khalifa which are distorted. The reason is to prove that these people are NOT trying to guide people to that correct path of SIRAATHUL- MUTHAGEEM.))please look at the following translation by RK
"[15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it"
In the above verse RK has written the the REVEALED will be preserved. of course as we all know and according to RK the Quran we have now is not the master tablet. It seems rather amusing that when GOD says that he will preserve the Quran GOD according to RK is in need of a human (RK) to help keep it under perfect preservation. So this must mean that RK is part of the WE in verse [15:9]. in appendix10 RK has written that this WE used by GOD means the involvement of a second party which he has said are Angels. So should we now consider mr.RK an Angel? The point i am trying to make out here is GOD revealed the book and that GOD will preserve it without the means of a human being. God has said the statement of preservation about the REVEALED Quran NOT the master tablet.God uses the plural tense in several parts of the Quran, in reference to His revelations. Using other entities such as angels and humans to deliver and convey His messages is part of His system. Understanding that God is the ultimate Doer of all things, despite His choice to use other entities, is part of believing the correct way.
Regarding the master tablet, this is what God says about that:
[85:21] Indeed, it is a glorious Quran.
[85:22] In a preserved master tablet.
How will God prove to us that He has indeed carried out His promise and preserved the Quran?Is it so hard to believe that He chose to do this by numerically structuring His scripture according to a template built on number 19?
Whether you like it or not, the physical facts in the Quran remain, that shows us that this is the case. Through this coding we've been able to determine that verses 9:128-129, which have been suspected as false even before the revelation of the code, do not belong in the Quran.
Throughout the world there are many copies of the Quran that do not follow the original Quranic writing, or spelling. To read more about this, click here. Does this mean that God did not carry out His promise to preserve the Quran?
The mathematical code provides us with the numerical template on which all the letters of the Quran was arranged. Anything that does not fit that template is immediately exposed. That template has clearly shown that apart from those two verses which were added by the committé assigned to put together the Quran in it's chronological sequence after the death of the prophet, and a few spelling errors in different versions, the Quran has been left untouched.
The people from the rk cult keep on saying that the Quran is preserved and that yet it is tampered with. This is like walking and standing still at the same time which of course is impossible to do.
Think about this, which may help you understand this principle better.
When God says He promises to save us and grant us victory, He proves it to us by taking us out of whatever it is we need to be saved from and grant us victory after being in a non-victorious state. In the same way God has proven to us that despite tampering with His scripture, He has exposed those efforts and preserved it perfectly despite those efforts. Do you think it is a coincidence that the only sura in the Quran with two false verses is also the only sura in the Quran that is not preceeded with the Basmalah (In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful)?
You prove the existance of a law by showing it in action, i.e. by applying it. When you apply a law you do so because there is a need, a situation which requires it. See the point?
Accoring to RK the initial NUN which is in the beggining of soorath 68 is 3 initials. Let us see wether this is true or not.
please take a look at his Quran - visual presentaion of the miracle page 238 and 239. keep in mind that this visual was made by Rashadh Khalifa the "messenger of the covenant" as he and other submitters claim and also keep in mind that this is this is proof his miracle like the miracle other messengers were given. ((From the Quran we learn that no messenger did a mistake during the perfomance of the miracle because the miracle was actually performed by the powers of GOD)). OK now back to page 238 and 239 of the visual presentation he has written that NUN is ONE initial of the arabic which is in the Quran soorath 68 Al-Qalam. You can see that this is how he has written NUN to be. i repeat he has NOT written NUN as NUN-WAW-NUN. but he has written as NUN only one single initial.. now let's us see his appendix one. In the next line you can see what he has written.
" NuN (Noon)
This initial is unique; it occurs in one sura, 68, and the name of the letter is spelled out as three letters - Noon Wow Noon - in the original text, and is therefore counted as two N's. The total count of this letter in the N-initialed sura is 133, 19x7. "
According to RK as you can see above the Quran he has counted NUN to be two verse depending on it's sound. really funny. So why shouldn't he take MEEM as two MEEMs because there are two meems in the sound? rather unbelievable right? He duznt follow his own theories.Rashad Khalifa correctly stated that Sura 68 should have two N's prefixing it, with the letter N spelled out as NuN. This challenge has already been sufficiently adressed in another article. To read the full response, click here.
One very special conclusion can be derived from these studies. It is that this so called messenger has MADE A MISTAKE if not a deliberate one during the perfomance of his miracle. This is the only Messenger who makes such types of Mistake. and since RK says that he is the "Messenger of the covenant" his mistakes are really against his claims. All of ALLAH's messengers are infallible when it comes to spreading the message of islam . Therefore it is only right to say that RK is no more than a Dhajjal.
That is correct. None of God's prophets and messengers make mistakes when it comes to delivering the complete message. We must however be aware, as the Quran points out, that;
[22:52] We did not send before you any messenger, nor a prophet, without having the devil interfere in his wishes. GOD then nullifies what the devil has done. GOD perfects His revelations. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.
As we also see in the verses below, God makes sure that His prophets and messengers deliver what they were sent to deliver before they depart:
[16:35] The idol worshipers say, "Had GOD willed, we would not worship any idols besides Him, nor would our parents. Nor would we prohibit anything besides His prohibitions." Those before them have done the same. Can the messengers do anything but deliver the complete message?
[46:23] He said, "The knowledge about this is with GOD; I only deliver to you what I was sent to deliver. However, I see that you people are ignorant."
Thus, whatever mistakes they make, are corrected before they depart this world. They always leave behind a complete and perfect message and the interferences, which are part of the system, becomes excuses for those who doesn't like what they hear and for those who wish to say, "Look, look, a 'messenger' that is not perfect. he must be FAKE!!"
All messengers and prophets, including Muhammad, made and makes mistakes. God gives us several examples of that in the Quran. One such mistake made by prophet Muhammad for example is explained in verse 33:37, when Muhammad hid inside himself God wished to proclaim, fearing the people instead of God.
[33:37] Recall that you said to the one who was blessed by GOD, and blessed by you, "Keep your wife and reverence GOD," and you hid inside yourself what GOD wished to proclaim. Thus, you feared the people, when you were supposed to fear only GOD. When Zeid was completely through with his wife, we had you marry her, in order to establish the precedent that a man may marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. GOD's commands shall be done.
This is but mercy from God that He shows and tells us that they were human beings just like us, which he repeats through the Quran (36:15, 11:27, 21:3, 23:33-34, 26:186, 41:6, 25:20 and many more)
The issue about the NuN however was not a mistake. Although Rashad Khalifa, just like all previous messengers and prophets before him made mistakes, this was definately not one of them. To read more about the NuN, click here.
THE MISSION OF THE SUBMISSION CULT
There has been many Christian / Muslim debates discussing the right religion and book to follow. I specially not the debates between Ahmed Deedat and other christians like Brother Jimmy Swagart and others. I have seen two such debate videos of two different debates. one about crucifixion and the other about BiBle: the book of GOD ? In the first mentioned debate a person questioned the chritian defenser why the Quran is NOT CHANGED through out all of these times. (( IF you want the video clip of the saying please give me your mail adress and i woulg give it to you. i suggest that you have a G-mail account.)) .. all these years i have spent and never heard any claim that the Quran is Tampered with . I recieved shock. I gave it thought and now i know what the purpose of this RK cult is. They are trying to make the Quran JUST LIKE THE BIBLE. They are trying to convince people that the Quran has many changed made by scholars who intentionally did it to guide people to hell.
This is as far from the truth as can be. The mathematical miracle proves the perfect preservation of the Quran. How else can we have the perfect Quran in our hands today?!
Imagine the finest piece of embroidery you can imagine, stitched with the most luxurious silk threads available in the world. Now imagine thick cheap synthetic threads used to add a feature on this embroidery. How hard would it be to detect that addition you think? It is the same thing with the Quran. The perfect Quran is already there, with all it's components. Looking at it through the design of the master template, which is based on the prime number 19, all additions and alterations are easily detectable.
Among the 6346 verses, only two were identified as false.
If you know the early history of Islam, which is even mentioned in Hadith, you will see see the serious disagreement that arose regarding tampering with the Quran by adding two extra verses in Sura 9 immediately after putting it together. This disagreement lead to the 50 year long war between those who supported the additions to the Quran to honour prophet Muhammad, and those who said that nothing should be added to the Quran. Here is a short account of that:
Nineteen years after the Prophet Muhammad's death, during the reign of Khalifa `Uthman, a committee of scribes was appointed to make several copies of the Quran to be dispatched to the new Muslim lands. The copies were to be made from the original Quran which was written by Muhammad's hand (Appendix 28).
This committee was supervised by `Uthman Ibn `Affaan, `Ali Ibn Abi Taaleb, Zeid Ibn Thaabet, Ubayy Ibn Ka`ab, `Abdullah Ibn Al-Zubair, Sa`eed Ibn Al-`Aas, and `Abdul Rahman Ibn Al-Haareth Ibn Heshaam. The Prophet, of course, had written the Quran in its chronological order of revelation (Appendix 23), together with the necessary instructions to place every piece in its proper position. The last sura revealed in Medina was Sura 9. Only Sura 110, a very short sura, was revealed after Sura 9, in Mina.
The committee of scribes finally came to Sura 9, and put it in its proper place. One of the scribes suggested adding a couple of verses to honor the Prophet. The majority of scribes agreed. `Ali was outraged. He vehemently maintained that the word of God, written down by the hand of His final prophet, must never be altered.
Ali's protest is documented in many references, but I cite and reproduce here the classic reference AL ITQAAN FEE 'ULUM AL QURAN by Jalaluddin Al-Suyuty, Al-Azhareyyah Press, Cairo, Egypt, 1318 AH, Page 59 [see Insert 1].
Translation: `Ali was asked: "Why are you staying home?" He said, "Something
has been added to the Quran, and I have pledged never to put on my street clothes,
except for the prayer, until the Quran is restored." [ Insert 1 ]The horrendous dimensions of this crime can be realized once we look at the consequences:
(1) `Uthman was assassinated, and `Ali was installed as the fourth Khalifa.
(2) A 50-year war erupted between the new Khalifa and his supporters on one side, and the Mohammedan distorters of the Quran on the other side.
(3) `Ali was martyred, and eventually his family, the prophet Muhammad's family, except for some women and children, were killed.
(4) The disaster culminated in the infamous Battle of Karbala, where `Ali's son, Hussein, and his family were massacred.
(5) The Muslims were deprived of the pure, unaltered, Quran for 1400 years.
To read the entire article, click here.
So i ask If the Quran has those many changed how can one say it is preserved?? what these people are trying to do is guide people to hell or even more guide people from the right ways of islam. They make people feel that they can live by the Quran alone. hmm ok. if you ( the submitters) can live by that rule there might be a sense in saying that. But even all these submitters rely on more than the Quran such as the self made hadhith of RK and arithmatic calculations and baseless theories. A perfect example of such a hadhith is the one in which RK says that he was taken to some place in the universe and was placed before all the prophets or messengers. There is no Quruanic evidence of his sayings so he went to his own hadhith and arithmetic calculations.. You can see how much of a lier he is.. and i specially not the article. Rashadh Khalifa the man and the issues article in which you can see the following lines
There is no problem with anything spoken or written attributed to our religion as long as it can be verified in the Quran. It is God's system that we speak with each other, remind each other, preach to each other (Khutbas, spread the news etc).
Everything Rashad said can be verified in the Quran. Him being taken to the high horizon is no exception.
[81:19] This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
[81:20] Authorized by the Possessor of the Throne, fully supported.
[81:21] He shall be obeyed and trusted.
[81:22] Your friend (Rashad) is not crazy.
[81:23] He saw him at the high horizon.
[81:24] He is not holding back any news.
[81:25] It is not the talk of a rejected devil.
[81:26] Now then, where will you go?
[81:27] This is a message for all the people.
[81:28] For those who wish to go straight.
Some other verses referring to God's Messenger of the Covenant, showing that people who choose to disbelieve him will use the term 'crazy' to describe him. They will also say, "well educated", which gives additional proof that this does not refer to Muhammad.
[44:10] Therefore, watch for the day when the sky brings a profound smoke.
[44:11] It will envelope the people; this is a painful retribution.
[44:12] "Our Lord, relieve this retribution for us; we are believers."
[44:13] Now that it is too late, they remember! An enlightening messenger had
come to them.[44:14] But they turned away from him, saying, "Well educated, but crazy!"
Like Prophet Muhammed before him, who has been attacked on the Internet with all kinds of false accusations, Dr. Khalifa was also accused, by what seems to be a pre-arranged scheme, of sexual misconduct with allegations that he adamantly denied. These allegations stemmed from the nature of a U. N. project he was conducting as a biochemist to study human body aura. His accusations, his denial and their insistence on repeating it, were just more examples of how traditional Muslims fail to follow the Quran alone, as seen in their failure to follow the commandments of God in the Quran in such circumstances. This incident, however, did expose the hypocrites and their allies, who still sing the false accusations in their fading hope of diverting the people away from his message of Quran ALONE, GOD ALONE. These accusations are no different from the accusations on the Internet of prophet Muhammed of sexual misconduct and abuse that can be seen on many anti-Islamic sites. Such sites are all lies and meant to insult Islam (Submission) and the belief in ONE GOD and His book the Quran ALONE
as you can see on the above paragraph he DID conduct a study on the human body aura.. why did he have to do it?? ok he is a biochemist but he is the Messenger of the Covenant at the same time why would a married man above the age of 40 have to see a naked girl?? I am sure that there wouldn't be reasons to justify it. and according to submission.org he was willing to do it again and again?? wow he really must love seeing naked girls.. but a normal human can have such intentions but a Messenger of GOD?? no way .. you can derive your own conclusions..
This technique is not new. Throw all kinds of lies and accusations that cannot be substantiated towards a person whose message you want to discredit. This is practiced by any and all levels in our society, and is widely used in politics to throw dirt on the opposition. Even if the accusation is later proven to be wrong, the aim is to associate the person's name with the memory of something 'dirty'. God warns us about these tactics in the Quran:[24:11] A gang among you produced a big lie. Do not think that it was bad for you; instead, it was good for you. Meanwhile, each one of them has earned his share of the guilt. As for the one who initiated the whole incident, he has incurred a terrible retribution.
[24:23] Surely, those who falsely accuse married women who are pious believers have incurred condemnation in this life and in the Hereafter; they have incurred a horrendous retribution.
[24:26] The bad women for the bad men, and the bad men for the bad women, and the good women for the good men, and the good men for the good women. The latter are innocent of such accusations. They have attained forgiveness and a generous reward.
[49:6] O you who believe, if a wicked person brings any news to you, you shall first investigate, lest you commit injustice towards some people, out of ignorance, then become sorry and remorseful for what you have done.
[49:12] O you who believe, you shall avoid any suspicion, for even a little bit of suspicion is sinful. You shall not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite one another; this is as abominable as eating the flesh of your dead brother. You certainly abhor this. You shall observe GOD. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful.
It is interesting that the Quran consistently refers to people who throw insults and who slander and backbite others, as the disbelievers and hypocrites. Never do we see an example of a believer who 'informs others' about the character of another human being. This is simply not a trait of the believers. Believers focus on the message, and they recite God's verses.
[35:29] Surely, those who recite the book of GOD, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them they spend - secretly and publicly - are engaged in an investment that never loses.
Slandering, backbiting and accusations must be part of the test to see who wants to and chooses to be diverted from the message based on lies against the person delivering it. This shows that it is not really not the person they dislike, but the message.
[8:30] The disbelievers plot and scheme to neutralize you, or kill you, or banish you. However, they plot and scheme, but so does GOD. GOD is the best schemer.
[33:48] Do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites, disregard their insults, and put your trust in GOD; GOD suffices as an advocate.
[3:186] You will certainly be tested, through your money and your lives, and you will hear from those who received the scripture, and from the idol worshipers, a lot of insult. If you steadfastly persevere and lead a righteous life, this will prove the strength of your faith.
[33:48] Do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites, disregard their insults, and put your trust in GOD; GOD suffices as an advocate.
[104:1] Woe to every backbiter, slanderer.
Just like people try very hard to find faults with people whose words they dislike, at the same time they overlook and refuse to see any faults with people whose words they support.[6:112] We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.
[6:113] This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.
People of all times have rejected God's prophets and messengers because they were 'human like us'. They want to see someone perfect, who has never made a mistake in their entire life. This is simply never the case. The prophets and messengers are required to submit and believe in the revelations they recieve, just like everyone else.
[11:88] He said, "O my people, what if I have solid proof from my Lord; what if He has provided me with a great blessing? It is not my wish to commit what I enjoin you from. I only wish to correct as many wrongs as I can. My guidance depends totally on GOD; I have put my trust in
Him. To Him I have totally submitted.The people of submission.org would keep on lying an lying to make people feel that islam is a burden, a corrupted religion with a tampered book. how ever they might find it sad to know that ALLAH has made a promise of keeping Islam above all religions at all times even though the disbelievers may not like it.
Those who uphold the Quran alone serves as the best examples to the fact that God made the religion easy to practice. Those that uphold Hadith set the worst example, promoting false decrees attributed to Islam which are nonsensical, unjust, backwards and illogical.
Please answer this: In what way are you suggesting that people who uphold the Quran alone make people feel like Islam is a 'burden' as you say?
Please also answer this: What content in the only two verses that were identified as false, and thus remove from the Quran, has any significance to the way we practice our religion or how we lead our lives? What instructions are we missing out on by not adhering to those 2 verses? What would we do differently IF those 2 verses really belonged in the Quran?
The answer to that question is of course that with or without those 2 verses, the way we practice our religion is exactly the same.
So where are all the lies you claim the people who follow the Quran alone uphold? Exactly WHAT in their practices is NOT supported by the Quran?
We have shown you, with the support from Quranic verses, several things you attribute to Islam to be in fact un-Quranic. Can you show us even one thing we've been preaching that is un-Quranic. Based on the Quran of course.