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Challenge: Why I now reject the code 19 doctrine.

1. Sura 3, Verse 7. Code 19 is not in any of the straightforward verses which constitute the essence of the scripture. Upholding code 19 is harbouring doubt in your heart- having a heart that wavers- and is pursuing the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion and to extricate a certain meaning.

Verse 3:7: 

"He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed."

Those who have want guidance beyond what the Quran provides are even more confused now than they were before. So in that sense it does spread confusion, amongst the disbelievers i.e. The only change is that now everyone else can witness their confusion, based on a clear Quranic proof. 

Consistently in the Quran, whenever allegories are mentioned, God says that the believers guides them thereby (2:26), and they know it's true meaning (3:7). Only the disbelievers are misled by their confusion about the meaning of cited allegories. It is the disbelievers that don't understand the meaning of God's allegories. The believers understand it and are guided by it.  

[2:26] GOD does not shy away from citing any kind of allegory, from the tiny mosquito and greater. As for those who believe, they know that it is the truth from their Lord. As for those who disbelieve, they say, "What did GOD mean by such an allegory?" He misleads many thereby, and guides many thereby. But He never misleads thereby except the wicked,

[2:27] who violate GOD's covenant after pledging to uphold it, sever what GOD has commanded to be joined, and commit evil. These are the losers.

As for the verses preceeding this example of God guiding the believers with understanding His allegories, please consider God's challenge to the disbelievers here: 

[2:23] If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our servant, then produce one sura like these, and call upon your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful.

Produce one sura....if you can.... The shortest sura in the Quran has 3 verses. Would it be impossible to write such a sura from a literary and informative perspective. No. The challenge lies in the mathematical composition that each sura, verse and letter is a part of, creating a intricate woven pattern in which every single verse and letter are accounted for. 

[2:24] If you cannot do this - and you can never do this - then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers.

[2:25] Give good news to those who believe and lead a righteous life that they will have gardens with flowing streams. When provided with a provision of fruits therein, they will say, "This is what was provided for us previously." Thus, they are given allegorical descriptions. They will have pure spouses therein, and they abide therein forever.

You state that the message the miracle of 19 supports creates confusion. So, please answer this: Wher is the confusion in the message that we should obey and worship only God using the Quran as our ultimate reference?

What everyone that rejects the mathematical miracle has in common, without exception, is some or several objections to practicing the religion according to the words in the Quran. That, after all, is what the numbers are meant to support, the very same words the Muslims already claim to uphold. 

It is following in the footsteps of the Hadith lovers who base their beliefs on the multiple-meaning verses ignoring the straightforward verses which lead them to the correct understanding. The simple fact is there is no verse in the Quran which in a straightforward manner says- "there is code 19 in the Quran", or "you must count the mathematical properties of the Quran to learn of my miracle and increase your faith." Just as ther is no straightforward verse which says, "you must follow the Hadith of Muhammad."

The viewpoint of the author of this site seems confused. Are you now suggesting that you object to the Hadith attributed to prophet Muhammad? Or is it so that you will ally yourself with anyone in this crusade, as long as they object to the miracle of the Quran?

When you object to the miracle on the basis that "there is no verse in the Quran which in a straightforward manner says- "there is a code 19 in Quran," you are in fact stating that you would have rejected any of  God's previous messenges and prophets had you been a contemporary of the same. You would have said, "There is not verse in the Bible that says 'follow a prophet named Muhammad'!", or "There is no verse in the Torah that reads, 'follow a prophet named Jesus that will be the son of a carpenter'." Can you even name ONE prophecy where the evidence of the HOW and WHO only becomes evident as the event is taking place. 

The facts in the miracle of the Quran speaks loud and clear, "Over it are nineteen!" None of the submitters, including Rashad, asked "what does 19 mean?" Rashad was commissioned to provide the answer to that, which he did. None of the people in the world knew what God meant by "These letters are miracles of this book of wisdom." Rashad Khalifa was commissioned to provide the answer to that. 

Is confusion created by those who pursue code 19- the evidence for this is overwhelming. There is confusion about what to count, what not to count, what is a miracle, what is not a miracle etc. Do the seeds of sectarian schisming have a fertile garden to grow in with code 19. Yes. Does the Quran without code 19 give such a fertile garden for schisming. No.

Human nature to nurture sectarianism has done quite well without the number 19, don't you think. It will continue to do a 'well' with the number 19 revealed to us as well. God actually explains that just as the truth brings out the best in people, it also brings out the worst, and will in fact increase people's wickedness. People whose hearts are seeking God alone will pursue that path stronger and move towards purifying themselves. People will always be people, and people always seek ways and means to pollute and dillute God's message (12:103-106). 

[17:82] We send down in the Quran healing and mercy for the believers. At the same time, it only increases the wickedness of the transgressors.

If the criteria for judging a message were the way people who claimed to follow it behaved, then surely people who are Christians would be justified in rejecting the Quran, looking at the way some traditional suicide-bombing Muslims are behaving. Right?

If the criteria for judging a message was its acclaimed followers, then people would be justified in rejecting the Bible looking at the sad state of both Judaism and Christianity today, with hundreds of different sects, quite a few violent and oppressive. 

That, of course would not be the intelligent behaviour. Knowing how bad people are at grasping the correct context of any given message and how prone they are towards folloing the crowd, and intelligent person will decide to take a good look for themselves, THEN make up their mind about matters.

Those who want to blame some people's bad behavior on the miracle of 19, need to explain what in the message that the miracle of 19 supports which is confusing and contradicting of the Quranic message?! 

In which straightforward verses has God told us of a numerically structured book? Verses 7-9 and verses 18-21 of Sura 83 are the only such verses. Why would God mention in straightforward verses that the books of the righteous and the wicked will be numerically structured- while failing to state the Quran is also numerically structured in the same clear straightforward language? I argue that if the Quran were numerically structured it would be more important for us to know about the Quran than it would be to know about Sijjeen and Elleyyeen. But God didn't give us a straightforward verse because-the Quran is not numerically structured. If you believe in Sijjeen and Elleyyeen you still believe God is capable of creating a numerically structured book.

God has told you that "Over it is nineteen" (74:30), he has given you the reasons He sent it down (74:31) and He has told you that it is "one of the great miracles" (74:35). He also told you several times, about the Quranic initials that the number 19 explains, that "these letters are proofs of this infallible scripture." Beyond that, all the physical, perpetual and verifiable facts, free of personal opinions (thank God), speaks for themselves. Whether you think or believe so or not, it is evident to all those who have no problem admitting that Quran alone is enough, that mathematical pattern based on the number 19 is there, clear as day. For those who want more than that, the following verses comes to mind; 

[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?

[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?

[74:49] Why are they so averse to this reminder?

[74:52] Does each one of them want to receive the scripture personally?

So what reminder is this that God says people are so averse to, a reminder mentioned exactly 19 verses after it reads, "Over it is nineteen"?

Is it the reminder to return to the worship of God alone and to uphold the Quran as our ultimate reference, or is it the reminder you represent, to adhere to all the innovations that contradicts the clear and straightforward Quranic teachings!? To read more about the teachings you promote, click here. 

God gave us straightforward facts. But, as we learn from the Quran, nothing is evident enough for some people. 

[6:35] If their rejection gets to be too much for you, you should know that even if you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a ladder into the sky, and produced a miracle for them (they still would not believe). Had GOD willed, He could have guided them, unanimously. Therefore, do not behave like the ignorant ones.

The Quran only contains a few mathematical properties deliberately given as bait by God to expose and bring out the wickedness of those who would fabricate lies. God tells us that He gives us enough rope to hang ourselves if this is what we choose to do- the 19 letters of the Basmalah and 114 chapters and 57 Qafs is God giving you the bullets to shoot yourself- but only you can put the gun to your head and shoot by fabricating lies.Why I reject code 19 doctrine 2( more reason) by Neil Peace be upon you

So, in your estimation, it is equivalent to shoot yourself in the head to come to the conclusion that God alone is enough and that He alone is worthy of worship, and that the Quran is a perfectly preserved scripture which should be our ultimate source of reference?

Regardless of how you feel about the numbers, because obviously you cannot see the miracle, can you not rejoice in the consequences of this miracle, having people of all previous faiths from all over the world come to realize that the Quran is the final and perfect message to mankind?

God never advocates vice. This is His law. Suggesting that God placed a mathematical system in His scripture, told us that it is a miracle (74:35) and that it's system consitute proofs of the Quran (10:1, 12:1, etc), is blaspheming against God. When God says something He means it. Satan is the one that plays such decietful tricks on people, not God. 

This is a new twist on the objections, suggesting that God somehow partially coded His scripture to bring out the evil in people who would attribute enough importance to it to....lo and behold....follow the Quran!!

Rashad Khalifa's translation of Sura 74 is wrong. In particular verses 29-35 - the only possible evidence for code 19- are translated in a biased and deceiving way. His translation is very bad for someone who was supposed to know the Arabic language so well. He interpolated his interpretation too much into his translation. The entire code 19 doctrine is based on a wrong interpretation of Sura 74.

Here are four different translations of those verses, Rashad Khalifa's included, for the benefit of ther reader. As a reader, please contemplate how you think the reasons for the number 19, as outlined in verse 31, fits with either view, 1) the view to uphold the Quran and worship God alone, 2) the view that other sources besides the Quran are necessary and that we must add Muhammad's name to our worship pratices. 

Verse No	Khalifa	Pickthall	Shakir	Yusuf Ali
74:29	Obvious to all the people.	It shrivelleth the man.	It scorches the mortal.	Darkening and changing the colour of man!
74:30	Over it is nineteen.*	Above it are nineteen.	Over it are nineteen.	Over it are Nineteen.

74:31	We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.	We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire, and their number have We made to be a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve; that those to whom the Scripture hath been given may have certainty, and that believers may increase in faith; and that those to whom the Scripture hath been given and believers may not doubt; and that those in whose hearts there is disease, and disbelievers, may say: What meaneth Allah by this similitude ? Thus Allah sendeth astray whom He will, and whom He will He guideth. None knoweth the hosts of thy Lord save Him. This is naught else than a Reminder unto mortals.	And We have not made the wardens of the fire others than angels, and We have not made their number but as a trial for those who disbelieve, that those who have been given the book may be certain and those who believe may increase in faith, and those who have been given the book and the believers may not doubt, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the unbelievers may say: What does Allah mean by this parable? Thus does Allah make err whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases, and none knows the hosts of your Lord but He Himself; and this is naught but a reminder to the mortals.	And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this ?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.
74:32	Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.	Nay, by the Moon	Nay; I swear by the moon,	Nay, verily: By the Moon,
74:33	And the night as it passes.	And the night when it withdraweth	And the night when it departs,	And by the Night as it retreateth,
74:34	And the morning as it shines.	And the dawn when it shineth forth,	And the daybreak when it shines;	And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
74:35	This is one of the great miracles.*	Lo! this is one of the greatest (portents)	Surely it (hell) is one of the gravest (misfortunes),	This is but one of the mighty (portents),

74:30 -over it is nineteen- is describing that over the Hellfire God has appointed 19 angel guardians. This is the obvious view of anyone who reads this verse for the first time without any knowledge of code 19. Muhammad did not say, "What did God mean by this allegory"- so Muhammad either knew about code 19 and kept it a secret or Muhammad took the natural view that anyone would take that over it is nineteen means over the hellfire is nineteen guardian angels. Only a disbeliever could say what does this mean.

Your ignorance of the Quran is hereby exposed once again. God clearly tells us that only those worthy enough, those who are sincere, are given access to the Quran. How would you describe someone who is given access to the hidden secret of the Quran, kept unknown for 1400 years, proving it's authenticity down to every single letter!?

In line with your argument that this is an allegorical verse, you are indirectly admitting that Rashad belongs with those "well founded in knowledge." Rashad never asked "why 19", he was sent to the world to provide us with the answer. 

I am one of the people whose faith is strengthened by knowing that if I have the wrong belief- 19 guardian angels stern and severe who never flinch from carrying out the commands given to them (66:6) will punish me. I am scared of the Hellfire because- I believe in the unseen- I believe in what I can't see. I am also scared of the angels who could pour boiling water over my head, and push me back into the fire and could do all the things that are outlined in the Quran. You ask why 19 angels? This is your question to ask if you are a disbeliever. 74:31- none knows the soldiers of your lord except He- only God knows the capabilities of the guardian angels to choose to place 19 of them as guardians of Hellfire.

What you are failing to realize is that neither Rashad Khalifa, nor the believers who have now submitted to God alone have asked the question 'why 19'? 

When Rashad Khalifa first started studying the meaning of the Initials, 19 was not even on his mind. This is why the first reports published spoke of a discovery that the Quranic Initals also proved to consistently be the most frequently occuring letters letter in the sura they prefixed. Rashad did not ask "why 19", he was given the answer why. 

There are things in the Quran we still do not understand. When the right time comes, that information will be revealed to us. The verse "over it is nineteen" was one of those verses, just as the verse in 54:1 stating, "the moon has split" was. Now we know what both these verses refer to by God's grace. 

Verse 74:31 that follows "over it is nineteen" lists consequences in this life, in this world, because of it, part of which is the increase of faith and the convincing of Jews and Christians. How do you explain those consequences with your interpretation?

Why do the disbelievers ask what is meant by this allegory when it is so clear? Well as a test for the disbelievers God made His book with a couple of 19 calculations in it. The 19 letter Basmalah the 114 chapters the 57 Qafs. Disbelievers then have enough evidence for their wavering heart to ask what is meant by these verses which mention 19. Just like "Obey God and obey the messenger" gives the hadithists enough evidence for their wavering heart. That the angels of Hell are 19 and some calculations in the Quran are 19 is the way that God can expose those who don't believe in the unseen torments or anything that they can't see before their eyes. The Quran without the code 19 could not be divine for them. They can't trust in God's promises- they want to ask like Moses people asked before them- to see God physically. Others are identified as true believers who are frightened by the torment that 19 guardian angels can give and don't need calculations to believe the Quran is divine- the words of the Quran are enough for them- they are thoroughly tested. While some may scheme against God's revelations God is the best schemer.

The Quran should be enough for all believers, and that is exactly what those who believe in the miracle of 19 believes. It is those who oppose the miracle of 19 that reject this notion based on baseless traditions they are trying to protect. Every single one that objects to the miracle of the Quran are having problems with dedicating their worship to God alone. They insist on attributing power and importance to other entities and other sources besides God and His scripture. IF you have someone in your life that is ardently opposing the Quran's miracle, ask them about their practices. You will find that they mention other names in their worship practices and that they add other instructions to their practices which are not supported by the Quran. 

To check two simple principles most of them oppose 1) only mentioning God's name in our Salat and Shaahadah (3:18, 6:162, 72:18, 39:45, 2:136 etc), 2) doing the four steps decreed by God to perform the Wudu (ablution) correctly (5:6) - most add 4-6 steps taken from other sources outside the Quran. 

It is quite astounding to hear someone who themself claims to believe in the Quran conclude that preaching that we should study and follow the Quran is equivalent to scheming against God's revelations? People like this consistently shout, "this is wrong", "this is misleading," "we must not listen to this". It would be more honest if they would list the ACTUAL practices they disagree with. 

In your argument here, you present yourself as a very God fearing person, truly fearing the retribution in the Hereafter, but you make no attempts whatsoever to explain what specific religious practice, as a consequence of believing that the Quran is authenticated by the code 19, would cause someone to end up in Hell?

You keep saying that it is wrong, but you don't say why! Is it because you cannot make yourself STOP commemorating Muhammad all the time, when GOD is the One you should be commemorating, not Muhammad!? What conclusions that this miracle is supporting is SO disturbing to you, that you've gone through all this trouble to fight it publicly? What traditions and inherited ways are you trying to protect?

If you are honestly upholding the Quran alone, then based on the Quran alone ,point out the verses that shows that the conclusions regarding the practices are wrong, don't just keep saying, "they are wrong, they are wrong, run away, run away", without explaining what you base this on.